I totally agree Lynq, we need some practise, actually we wouldn't have needed practise hence we split the first 10man raid up the best we could to form two solid toc 10 raids. which then should be able to down it like a breeze.
Our problem right now is people not showing up for the raids, which is a massive lack of guild loyalty and responsibility, therefor we are missing our usual raid members and we have to tend to people who have not raided with us before, or people who simply can't play their maximum of their characters, i am not saying any names since we know who they are.
Means new people, more people who don't know the tactics, and loads of the people slacking last night, my guess is they have become so used to raiding in the previous raid that they really do think its a breeze, seeing that iir and lomein and kitty carried most of us trough our flaws and failures in the first 10man raid we formed.
People need to be aware of such now since we no longer have either iir or lomein in our grp, it was unfortunate that holykitty nor elexxia wasn't there, i am rather glad though. gave us a view of who WAS really carried by them. and those people needs to step up and review the tactics if they might have forgotten them.
Although, when you fall off the horse you need to get back up ASAP. meaning we need to try again very soon.